House Democratic Whip Katherine Clark on how she thinks the shutdown will end

By Steve Inskeep

Published November 4, 2025 at 4:39 AM MST

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As the shutdown enters its 35th day, NPR's Steve Inskeep talks with House Democratic Whip Katherine Clark to discuss how she sees the shutdown ending and whether her party has any leverage.

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Steve Inskeep is a host of NPR's Morning Edition, as well as NPR's morning news podcast Up First.

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